Its about time that you enjoyed pistol hunting and brought home the bacon. Mar 14, 2006 my first witness is the polymer carry 10mm, short 3. If anything will crack one of these things it is fullpower 10mm. Alphawolf stainless steel slide compatible with glock 21l 45acp gen3, oem profile. A henning guide rod helps, too, although thats true regardless of caliber, and has more to do with how the base of the guide rod interacts with the frame than anything related to slide velocity.
It came with the new and unimproved round top slide as seen in the video before being modified. I may be a 1911 freak, but a little variety imho can be a good thing. I have a eaa witness elite match in 10mm, its a great gun and will take nuclear loads. If you settle on a load, ive heard you dont really swap the springs much. I was in love from after shooting my first 5 rounds through. Eaa witnessp carry 10mm, and witness stock 10mm current. Nothing would jam, nothing needed to be cleared, the next round just stayed in the mag and the slide locked back like it was empty. The eaa witness that came into albany guns of albany, oregon is lightly used. No ftfs, but it took a bit of work to get two spare mags. Video eaas 10mm witness the firearms forum the buying. I got hold of a new polyframemetalslide witness in 10mm.
Early in the production of these pre2006 there was an issue with the slide or frame cracking under. After about 600800 rounds i would quit worrying about it though. Oct 09, 2007 on march 30, 2010, 10mm man of reported a crack in his 10mm witness starting under the safety and traveling back along the groove. Large frame witness magazines witness tanfoglio parts. If you get the regular full sized steel framed 10mm, it should come with the heavier squared slide. This is a great option for those looking for a carry gun. As it has a clintonera 10shot magazine, it is large for its current capacity and a few ounces heavier than a government model 1911. I really want to use the stiffest spring available to avoid a cracked slide but that would require a stiffer magazine spring and it. Factory replacement parts are manufactured to the exact same specifications and tolerances and use the same manufacturing materials as the original parts which guarantees excellent fit and reliable operation. Now everybody loved their witness 10mm but me, reason being my frame cracked almost immediately. Mar 29, 2009 i do believe the 9mm witness has fewer if not just a few cracked slides, the majority of them are the 10mm and 45. So carrying it cocked and locked would definitely be an option.
The 10mm version of the witness model does have some history of slide cracks, due most people say because the guns seem to have recoil springs that are too light for full power 10mm ammo. Since then, folks on the internet have stoked fears of cracked slides on any tanfo witness 10mm. Match them up with the conversion which interchange on either frame. The new standard witness has a rounded slide and it will crack with any real 10mm. The colt delta elite is a single stack gun that holds eight rounds and features all the standard 1911 controls and features. Scientific glass slides available in 10mm, 14mm and 18mm. So my wife bought me an eaa witness polymer frame in 10mm for christmas two years ago and id like to share my experiences so far. The witness hunter becomes an extension of you arm, you aim, squeeze the trigger and the buck or boar drops. If you search 10mm glocktalk,, ar15 etc you will find that there are some problems with the witness if the gun is a round top slide as compaired to the flat side hunter type,, some have cracked. Back to eaa on my dime, plus my dime for return shipping. While the witness has a lot of reports of cracked slides, the elite match is apparently the same basic design, but with considerably. As described in the title, two instances each mag, the slide would lock back with rounds still in the mag. Testing cracked tanfoglio slide repaired with mig welder.
If youre strictly talking about a witness in the same price range as the glock, ill take the g20 every time. The witness was about as large a grip as i liked, much like my old 97b with hakan grips. Fortunately, i will get the purchase price refunded by the dealer hes helpful like that. The problem with a ten has always been with the shooter, that is a full power not even a hot hand load 10mm is caliber for professionals not amateurs. A local gun shop owner stated that he sent a witness 10mm back to the factory 2 times for a cracked slide. Dec 11, 2012 i have a witness in 10mm that i bought in 2004. The only witness chambering i havent heard or read about cracking is the 38super. Google eaa witness cracked slides, images, and you can see the difference between your slide, and theres. My experience with the 10mm eaa witness polymer frame page 1 10mm semiauto handguns. Red dot reflex sight slide cut we machine your red dot directly to your slide. In buying any 10 mm used check the frame rails very close they can crack. It was an eaa witness 10mm tanfoglio polymer frame.
The 10mm is notorious for cracking slide and frames and battering issues in designs not originally intended for the more powerful cartridge. Im very happy with the witness, and am trying to get one of the competition models, prolly a stock ii, thinking that it should be more accurate. Nov 30, 2014 slide barrel from a witness steel compact, manufactured in 2003. I recently purchased a 10mm witness and finally got it to the range. I was just talking to a friend of mine that has an older 10mm.
Dec 25, 2010 i own a pair of witnesses and i like both of them. The slides that have cracked, were the newer ones that have been cutcontoured to decrease the weight a little. I would like to hear about the failures of eaa witness pistols. While the witness has a lot of reports of cracked slides, the elite match is. All the eaa witness models are based on the same frame. Aug 23, 2018 the colt delta elite had some teething issues when it was first introduced, and there were some issues with cracked slides due to the powerful 10mm auto. After we machine the slide, we cerakote the machined surface at no additional charge. The wonder finish has cracking problems to as it seems to harden the slide but the biggest problem seems to be that eaa undersprings the gun. We will cerakote your entire slide for an additional charge see options below. The witness hunter 10mm will drop them in their tracks.
Besides the popular 9mm variety, eaa witness pistols also come chambered in 10mm. I ultimately chose not to because my goal was to take advantage of a 10mm conversion slide, and the ae series doesnt readily accept these without a bunch of fitting. Know that i never had a bad 10mm round or a stoppage. It differs from the compacts in that it has a cone barrel lockup, therefore there is a guide rod bushing in front of the spring in the slide, the bushing slides out so the barrel can be removed by sliding it forward out the front of the slide. My experience with the 10mm eaa witness polymer frame. My problem is why would someone fire full 10mm rounds for competition.
That seems like a huge mistake, as if someone didnt realize that 10mm can put a lot of stress on a gun. Cs at eaa sucks but the warranty is forever to the original owner. Eaa, the 9 mm luger witness is a fullsize, steelframe gun based on the classic cz75 design suited for such. I have an eaa witness match and am looking to get one of the barrel slide magazine swap sets for 10mm and been researching it.
I have a witness elite match in 10mm, great gun and very accurate. I have a elite match in 10mm and it is easily the most accurate semi auto i have owned, right out of the box. I do believe the 9mm witness has fewer if not just a few cracked slides, the majority of them are the 10mm and 45. I bought a well used 1996 m9del wonder finish steel witness full size over christmas. Slidebarrel from a witness steel compact, manufactured in 2003. Eaa mag witness large frame 10mm auto 10round steel blue. As i was putting away the witness last night, i noticed a crack in the 10mm slide. Eaa witness in 10mm cz forum the leading community for. This replacement magazine is a factory original from eaa. He said the individual was setting it up for competition shooting and firing a lot of rounds. The listing of their names is not intended to represent an endorsement by the manufacturer or any of its subsidiaries nor is it meant to represent an endorsement of the firearmbrand by eaa corp. Supposedly, their 10mm models have some durability issues, but some of. To begin with, there arent a whole lot of holster options for the witness and less for the polymer frame version. The heaviest works well with 10mm and hte middle works well with.
I have an eaa witness match and am looking to get one of the barrelslidemagazine swap sets for 10mm and been researching it. Available in a variety of colors and bowl styles there is a scientific glass slide available to upgrade or replace your current bowl. That prominent line perpendicular to the ejection port is a casting mark. My first witness is the polymer carry 10mm, short 3. An interesting note is that the original rocked a commander style. Not like blew apart but the trigger plunger and spring cracked right through to the magwell. I have the witness 10mm compact and it is one of my favorite.
Eaa witness hunter i have owned 2 witness pistols and had a good experience with a basic model in. Additional charges for non free shipping products, products shipping to remote locations, hazmat products, and large or heavy items still apply. Tanfoglio makes the 10mm witness, a pistol on the czplatform, thats had documented issues in the past, and not just cracked slides but q. I wont say thousands due to cost but maybe one thousand rounds later it is still good with no cracks. Mar 20, 2012 i have a witness elite match in 10mm, great gun and very accurate. A returned order resulting from failure to provide the proper information example. Stainless steel replacement slide for your glock 20.
Extractors in 9mm seem to last forever, ive never seen a cracked slide or frame, hopefully i dont. An eaa 10mm is a great way to get into the cartridge. Eaa witness hunter semi automatic handgun 10mm 6 barrel 15 rounds checkered wood grips black finish. If i were to buy a witness it would be in 9mm and i would replace the recoil spring from the start, i would just feel a little more confident in it. Cracked slide wonder finish witness my experience with eaa. An older witness line pistol in 10mm with the old style slide, and with a. Ergonomically, they are far superior to any glock or 1911. Manufactured by tanfoglio in italy and imported by european american armory corp. Will this maybe older eaa witness 10mm be able to handle hot. The older witness s and the current elite series have a heavier square slide profile. The other eaa is a witness carry,a poly framed,4 that is a bit snappy,but a nice grip and trigger. My experience with the 10mm eaa witness polymer frame page. All names, brands andor likenesses of the firearms listed in our accessoriesholsters section are property of their respective owners. It was designed as a 10mm from the get go and handles the hottest stuff with ease.
The older witnesss and the current elite series have a heavier square slide profile. I am looking at the hunter series which is the typical witness cz variant with a long slide and target sights. All ran fine but the witness which after 200 rounds cracked a slide rail with cci blazers and when that was replaced started cracking the frame rails after only 100 rounds. If theres one thing in this world i love its a light rail that ends when the slide does. We hand fit your sight to your slide and modify the screws for a perfect fit requires your sight to be sent with the slide. Among them are a 9x23win elite match rechambered from 9mm, a 10mm wonderfinish full sized witness, and a 10mm polymer framed semicompact full size frame, short slide. It was still safe to shoot i suppose but i didnt and the only reason i knew it was suddenly the mags were sticking when they should have dropped free. Unlike some other models, the witness features a magazine that can hold 15 rounds. Witness slide stop page 1 10mm semiauto handguns 10mm. The pistols were designed in cooperation with sixtime ipsc world champion eric grauffel.
I have even seen jamomatic wrote on the sales tag at local shops on the witness 10mm also heard of many cracked frames on the witness 10mm. I have a 6 eaa hunter that is my most accurate and softest shooter,wonderfull grips and a truly amazing trigger right out of the box. Scientific glass on glass slides available in 10mm, 14mm and 18mm will fit most standard glass beaker, bong and bubbler joints. Owners of the above designated witness pistols should immediately field strip the pistol and send the slide assembly to european american armory corp. Essentially, the eaa witness in 10mm is a simplified bren ten, as it is identical in essentials to the original 9mm cz pistol. As a range or target pistol, the limited version of the witness would be better, in my opinion, due to the trigger and weight. Tabletop comparison of the glock 29 and eaa witness 10mm. Glock 10mm versus tanfoglio 10mm the leading glock forum.
Its a low profile weapon with snag resistant sights and a stainless steel slide. Had to sent the 40 back due to a cracked slide a little while ago. Yes eaa cs stinks but the tanfoglio gun works great except for the 10mm. What i liked about it was the bull barrel and the frame mounted thumb safety even though it was a da. Ive run about 5k through the 10mm, and 2k through the. Jan 07, 2015 now everybody loved their witness 10mm but me, reason being my frame cracked almost immediately. Eaa witness in 10mm cz forum the leading community for cz.
She sent it back to eaa for repairs because it has a cracked slide. I guess i was lucky, in that i spotted the cracks before it actually flew apart in my hands. He states he bought it a couple of years before, so presumably 0708 is the latest this weapon could have been made. The colt delta elite had some teething issues when it was first introduced, and there were some issues with cracked slides due to the powerful 10mm auto.
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